Rachel Oliver And nextbigboombiz.com
Posted on April 8th, 2008 by Rusty
Many visitors find my site by looking for information in search engines for Rachel Oliver, nextbigboombiz.com and Liberty League International. Make sure you are checking out the post on Zenaida Lorenzo also as these two seem to be either the same operation, or from a downline of Zenaida Lorenzos operation. Im sure alot of you may still be falling prey to the ebay auction where you think your getting into a great business opp only to get some pretty basic information on marketing, and then “introduced” to these other programs. Maybe the term High Yeild System has come up? So be sure to check out all the pages on those and be sure to comment and tell me about your experience.
I’m familiar with Zenaida & Rachel. They both work with Liberty League International and the website comes from The Home Business People where anyone can get a similar page to help kick start the internet marketing process. I’ve found nothing shady about it and when contacted and asked about the business Zenaida was very straight forward with what she does and providing me access to additional facts. Have you had a different experience? Have you spoken with Rachel or Zenaida?
My biggest problem was the way I was “introduced” to Zenaida. I was basicly scamed in an ebay auction, an auction that offered a business opportunity that made many promises. All I received was some generic marketing and was offered a chance to put up more money and get into a “high Yeild System” and this is where I came into this bunch. If it is something that is real and so great, why use deceptive tactics to recruit people? Why do all these sites make these great claims but never tell you what it is about?
Let me also add that I dont make any direct claims of this being a scam. I see it as vague and misleading. It makes claims of not being MLM but of all the sites that are the same trying to recruit people how can it not be? You are the first to step out and say something to defend the program and I comend you for that. With the many visitors that come here on the search engine terms “zenaida lorenzo scam” and “rachel oliver scam” I cant help but feel that others are falling victim to the same bad marketing tactics as me.
hi there,
Can you tell me more about rachel oliver and her company?
I wanted to join them but I’m not sure.
That’s why I’m doing sort of investigation about nextbigboombiz.
Cheers, Viky
Viky,
Thanks for visiting my site, I have sent you an email with more information. I hope this helps!
what is this ebay auction everyone is speaking about?
Hi Jennifer,
My conclusion is that some of the Liberty League members use ebay auctions to gather new recruits. So was the case for me anyway. And much like the websites they run, the ebay auction made no mention of Liberty League. In the end, I paid $30 for some generic info and a link to one of their sites with a chance to pay more money and join these people. That auction and loss of $30 dollars did lead to the birth of this site however so it wasnt a total loss. Thanks for visiting!
I came across this site thru CareerOne Home Biz ops. Ok so they actually have a product for you to use to set up your own home biz (if you want to pass yourself off as an IT/Advertiser/Marketer/Web Developer, etc etc expert). Most of the product is stuff that hasn’t sold elsewhere. Its all recycled product that goes round and round. And if anyone says it’s not MLM then take another closer look. Yes it is and really it’s Pryramid as well. Be careful folks with this stuff - its been around for years - its just another way of marketing to offload product but with someone else ‘doing’ the hard sell stuff - although you do have to pout in some of the effort. And as for the likes of Rachel Oliver, Liberty League and Gateway to money and Passport to wealth and all the rest of them - click on al their links and watch them all interconnect! And lastly, if you see yourself as a Procrastinator cause you hesitate - then good for you - you have every right to be cautious!
Thanks Deb, your contribution helps me greatly as I try to save people from falling victim to these people. We need more people like you to speak out!
Rusty,
You are utterly and completely wrong. You clearly have not seriously looked into what the LLI business offers. It is not MLM, It is an UP-TWO marketing system. You need to get some serious education on what constitutes a MLM system. Clearly from your misleading comments in this blog, you are one of the many who FAIL in life and the only way to get back is to tear down an incredible company and system. Further, it is clear you have never gone to any of the LLI Seminars. People pay Tony Robbins $20.00 at a pop to get his training. The info and cost of the LLI seminars are competitive. . . . Rusty, obviously you are not remotely close to being a fit in the LLI Company. Not everyone can be on the starting line-up . . . . . or even the water-boy. YOU continue to look at the world through your Honda/Toyota “belief window” I will continue to look at the world through my BMW/Mercedes belief window. It is always amusing to listen to the losers in life. . .
Lon
Lon, you can put the lipstick on the pig and call it what you want. It is MLM in the beginning, then it changes so people like you and bogus business opportunities can say its not. I receive emails daily from people who have gotten involved in this and this is what I write about. You have some damn nerve saying that I am misleading people. Take a look at the crackpot websites Liberty League runs and you will see misleading defined right before your very eyes. I’m not sure who the hell Tony Robbins is but if your talking about Tony Rush (a sign you need to do more research), people paying him $20,000 for training is a great point to what I write about here, an overpriced product. Take it from Lon I guess, Tony is gonna need $20,000 to educate you. I am thankful not to be fit for Liberty League, It means that I have educated myself past the point of falling for the bs its associates push to sign up new recruits. I am in a starting lineup all my own that rewards me by knowing the truth and giving free knowledge to others, no water boy needed. Your reference to how you people are better and most others are losers in life, is just more evidence of cult like behavior displayed within this group. You coming on here and talking crap only reflects more negativity on LLI.
Dude.. if you dont even know who Tony Robbins is, and you put yourself out there as some Personal Development know all….. you are a laughing stock… Google the guy for heavens sake, and catch a wake up call.
Good for you Lon - at least YOU know what you’re talking about!
Anyone out there using this blog as information gathering tool - you have been completely misled. I suggest you check out either Rachels or Zenaida’s websites, get in touch and have a chat… you’ll be pleasantly surprised I think.
My blog or this topic is not about Tony Robins so try to stay on course. I know its hard for you being brainwashed with cult propaganda. I can always spot a member by your style of attacking what goes against what you are a part of. Readers…let Belinda be an example of the type of people you get to deal with in Liberty League International. He/She is a fine example of the company they keep. Also Belinda, you are to stupid to even realize what this blog is, you claim I think I am a personal development know all, that’s not even close to what I do. I recommend people get the training for free off the many web resources available rather than being bent over by Liberty League for their products. Thank you for making your ignorant rant on my site, you help me make my point. Beware of Liberty League International.
Hi, Hope you can follow this as I’m on the move and will do my best to make the following ledgible.
Firstly everyone calm down. LL is just one great opp. out there and no it’s not for everyone, it’s suitable for those who understand it and who want what it offers. I wasn’t going to join LL at first but I needed to join to learn some key concepts on Business and to put myself around people who were happy to enjoy life and all that it has to offer.
I’ve been in all types of Business Private and Corp., I’ve worked for NGO’s, been to many Seminars (Tony Robbins, Amway, Bob Proctor, Trump… to name a few). I’ve studied International Relations and Business, Studied Internationally, I’ve Coached sports, written and played music, lived in different cultures, I’ve been ripped off and hurt by those I love and trusted. I tell you this because I want to let you know that I’m reasonably well rounded and thus think things through… as I did when I was looking at LL - before I joined.
I’ve worked very hard for the 30 young years of my life and I don’t muck around with my short time here on earth. Life is for the living,we all have to make choices and have nothing to lose. I mean nothing! I’ve had years of sickness,pain,grief and been through hard times Financially… haven’t we all. However, I’ve also travelled well and enjoyed great wealth, infact I’m off to Hawaii tomorrow. At some point people have to take a leap of faith if they want to achieve their dreams and for me that involves LL. Yes there are other great ways to make money and achieve prosperity but it doesn’t happen when we run others down. LL helps people achieve great things and people don’t have to go it alone. It is a great company, with great people.
Yes LL Business owners have to be independent and accountable but so does everyone who wants to make the most of life. With LL there is plenty of support for all, unlike the dog eat dog world of traditional Business. I actually have a Property Business and am set to make an easy 3 Million Personal Profit from that alone by Xmas after starting a project from scratch late last year. 3 Million is not that much to some but it’s not the figure that’s important to me it’s the opportunity it creates. I’ve joined LL for the same reason…Opportunity! LL is about people, fun, sharing, travel, lifestyle and most of all the Personal Development stretches me.
My advice here and with any decision would be to follow your instincts and remember that you only live once so what ever you do… make it count FOR YOU.
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Thank you Arron for such a positive and polite comment.
Unlike some, you didn’t find the need to personally attack others who decided to post their experiences.
I hope life treats you well you deserve success.
Hi - as someone who is literally just looking into LLI today, the initial impression is that it does have a strong element of MLM in addition to being a sales commission based business . I don’t really have a problem with this - I can accept that they justify this to new people as the cost of ‘training’ whilst using it as a major selling point of becoming an advisor.
However my concern is that none of the websites or info I have seen to date really focuses on the product, only on the amount of money that you can make. Sure the money element is a critical focus, especially in the market they are competing in, and I don’t doubt that there are many people out there who can make pots of money out of this. But the fact that the benefits of the product seem secondary really concerns me - I don’t want to be involved in selling a sub-standard product - even if it does mean I can go on extra holidays and drive a fab car. Shouldn’t the product be more life changing than the money??? That is the part that makes me concerned that this businsess is a bit of a scam.
Well said Sally…
Hi Sally and anyone else reading this:
The Beyond Freedom Program through LLI is the most life changing programme I have ever put my hands on. I had suffered a nervous breakdown, marriage breakdown and undergone some major surgery. My life was in the toilet one could say. As i healed emotionally and physically I came across a website with a business opportunity in personal development. I had been a student of PD for about 15 years and decided to inquire. I signed up as an Associate with LLI when they first launched in Australia and New Zealand. When I got my hands on that product I was blown away!! Beyond Freedom Program , LLI and the training we receive has totally changed my life. I know for once in my life what true happiness, peace and lifestyle mean. I am surrounded with like-minded positive people. Financially my life has amazing. Before LLI I was on a sickness pension of less than $10,000 per year - 18 months later it is not uncommon for me to make that in a week!! I have seen father’s be able to give up there jobs through this business, I have seen marriages saved through the Beyond Freedom Program. My daughter saw her Mum go from a suicidal depressed woman into a happy fun-loving mum.
Before you bag LLI - try before you BAG, You do not know what you are missing.
This company is here to stay and is growing country by country daily.
If I didn’t know any better, I would think this is a pre-typed response that comes with your membership pack. It’s the hard luck story how one was on their last dollar, and everything was in the toilet, then I found Liberty League and they rescued me and now I’m rich and in perfect health.
I hope that one in a bad situation like that was able to recoup and become successful. To do it at the expense of others buying into this opportunity however in my opinion isn’t a very moral way to do so. Its like stepping on the shoulders of people in the same situation as you to better yourself.
Its hard to give Liberty League a try before one investigates and looks for past users input on it due to its cost. You can say all you want that’s it only takes $49.95 but its obvious this isn’t true. Past members and even members still currently participating in Liberty League tell me every day that there is a price to pay to be involved. I wish anyone success but don’t think it should be had at the expense of unsuspecting or misled people.
I’m happy that everything is going well for Kaz with her family and health
I have a question - if 90 days is all it takes to turn your life around with the Beyond Freedom program why don’t you just spend all that money on a family holiday?
It would have been just as effective and maybe even cheaper.
Life is full of the good and bad but I would hardly look at spending thousands of dollars to set up a home business based on direct sales to fix the problem - if anything it would make it worse!