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As I stated earlier, I wanted to highlight a comment that was recently left.  These contributions from ex members are such an asset to anyone looking for information on Liberty League.  One thing that is unique about them is that I only get contributions like this from ex members.  The current members always come on here and do one of two things, they rave about how busy they are traveling and making money and just leave propaganda, or they are hostile and attacking.  They will never give you a real, descriptive account of what they have done since joining Liberty League.  They want tell you in detail what they do day to day or how much it cost them to operate.  Thank you Deborah for another valuable account from an ex member.  Deborah’s comment follows, unedited…

 

 

Firstly, I would like to congratulate LLI#1 for his/her success with their business.

However, if Liberty League International is a company about personal development , positive energy and positive actions then the comments made by LLI#1 leave plenty to be desired. Reading word’s like “retarded” and “Duh” from a student of personal development is concerning. If Liberty League International is so great then why don’t you use your real name?

 

Most people know that spending “$5 bucks” will not make you a millionaire but this does not change the fact that people are still being mislead by associates of Liberty League International.

I too am an ex member of Liberty League International and I soon realised that it doesn’t just cost $1495.00 for Beyond Freedom and a “one off” registration fee of $49.95. There is so much more to spend to keep your business running, which is all good, but none of it is explained on the Business Presentation Calls.

 

For example you pay the $49.95 registration fee after that it costs $39.95 per month to keep your Liberty League International website running which is used for signing up other associates.

 

All associates then usually pay for another website which I’ve discovered are mostly created with the Home Business People. This is the website you do your advertising with - the one that portrays the associates living a life of luxury that even Donald Trump couldn’t afford. This costs about $20.00 per month. Unless, you have your photo taken in front of a landmark e.g the Statue of LIberty or the Collesium then there really is no way to truly know if the associate is a frequent flyer. The photo’s could’ve been taken in a backyard pool - it doesn’t matter though just look happy and rich!

 

In all fairness The Home Business people are very proffesional and friendly. So I would highly recommend them if you need a website.

 

So, so far, you would have spent $1495.00 on Beyond Freedom, 49.95 for registration and you would continue to pay $39.95 per month for you Liberty League International website and if you chose to go with the Home Business People $20.00 per month.

 

Then there is your marketing to consider for example flyers, newspaper ads, internet ads, Google Adwords(which is used by many of the associates) and YES people this all costs money and needs to be done if you want to produce leads. It’s not as simple as it’s made out to be.

 

If your not in the United States then you must also pay the currency conversion fee that is charged by financial institutions on every monthly debit that is made to your account by Liberty League International.

As you can see it’s not just “$40.00 a month for a website” as stated by LLI#1. Big or small it all adds up!

Within 48 hours of joining up as an associate my advisor was attempting to sell me both the Liberty and Summit Conference tickets. When I said ‘no I’ve just signed up” I was told that most associates make all their “big sales” from the Liberty and Summit Conference tickets not from Beyond Freedom program sales. This vital bit of information was left out of the Business Presentation Call.

 

Yes, they do discuss the profits you may make if you purchase the Liberty and Summit Conference tickets on the presentation calls but they don’t tell you that this is where most the money is made.

I didn’t see any support from my colleagues either. I had to figure it out on my own. I tried to contact a couple of my colleagues asking for guidance and got the standard “make it happen” and the other hung up the telephone. Speaking for myself I was left on my own.

 

There are business set up and maintenance costs in EVERY business but most of the time you are informed of them BEFORE you proceed.

 

I too would exercise extreme caution when dealing with a business of this nature especially if it’s current members are accusing people of being “retarded” and are not willing to reveal their names.

As an ex member I WILL NOT allow any current members to make me feel as if it was due to my errors that I was not successful. I was not successful because I am an honest person who saw a missing link in the chain. Unfortunately for me I saw the missing link after paying for it.

 

Thank you Rusty for all your hard work in warning and saving innocent people and their families. I just wish I saw this site BEFORE I wasted thousands of dollars.

 

From Ex-Member Contribution, 2008/08/11 at 7:14 AM

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Recently the site has been visited by another Liberty League extremist.  And as usual, the behavior is the same.  This person left a series of comments throughout the site, about as scattered as this persons thoughts.  They do the usual act of saying I’m negative and amount to nothing.  They want to make you think that Liberty League was to good for me, that’s why I’m not a part of it.  This persons ramblings and finger pointing are such valuable insight to what one may encounter when dealing with this business opportunity, I have dedicated an entire page to group their comments together.  Thank you LLI#1 for your visit and negative, name calling, bashing comments.  You really help me make a point.  See all the comments here.  Recently there was a comment posted by Deborah as well, this was a great account from an ex member and gives great info on what to expect on cost and the “after you join” experience.  It will get its own post coming later.

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Here is a comment (unedited) left by a reader today, check it out and I will continue afterwards…

 

“Thank god i found this website you have totally opened my eyes, i actually spoke with rachel oliver and became suspicious as she basically said my business would fail unless i spent my 1500hundred then sirens began to sound in my head,get em interesed then take their money is what came to mind also they are very secretive which also gets to me and when i spoke to her she borderd on rude as if i didnt give her the 1500 she wasnt interesed in talking to me.
Please people just watch what you invest in or just give me your cash.
Also on a further note im a big believer in the secret and its philosiphy and i also found this a bit disturbing as they are using its success to sell their product.
Richard”

 

Thanks Richard for taking the time to comment and I am glad I was able to give you some useful info to help you with your decision, although it sounds like all the usual warning signs this group puts off were already noticed by you.  This is right in line with what so many say about Liberty League International, Rachel Oliver, and the rest of the gang trying to recruit more people into their “opportunity “.  When defending the company they tell you that you only have to invest $49.95, but that’s hardly what they push when actually talking with the members.  Thanks again, and please if there are more out there that have tried this, or even started to try it but quickly retreated I would love to hear from you.

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I just wanted to take some time and reflect on a comment received on one of the Rachel Oliver post. It came from someone calling themselves Aaron Hinks. You can see the comment in its entirety here. It sounded strangely familiar in some of its content, you know the “oh I’m so busy with my successful lifestyle kind of tone”. They continue to go on about how accomplished they are and so on.

One thing that was different and unique to his comment was the fact that he talked of Liberty League International as one of many things he has going on. Maybe Aaron has a good strategy on Liberty League. My interpretation would be don’t rely on it entirely as a source of success. He has become successful by his own words but not by LLI independently. Actually he makes no claims at all of financial wealth or financial income from LLI. To bad LLI seems to market itself in ways that reach the already financially desperate. But I guess these are the easiest to exploit.

I thank Aaron for taking the time to post the comment, all in all I do think Aaron’s comment is just more LLI propaganda, it just fits the mold to well. It seems all these people think and talk alike. Remember the post “Motivational Product Or Cult Propaganda”…Yeah

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Ok, since you Liberty League International members decline to answer any questions that require a specific answer and not a canned generic response, I will break it down by my own research.  I must say that I’m not surprised, as the people that are involved in this business operate in secrecy and like to “interview” potential members before releasing any details of what they do.  I thinks its because they have a particular type of person the seek when recruiting.  People who are able to think on their own and question others ideas need not apply.

But here is an answer to the question I asked.  What do I get for $49.95?  I would get a business kit and a cheap website for one month, after that it would be up to me to pay monthly fees for the site and pay for any of the “marketing tools” they have in place for me to use.  To get someone to purchase the product you would be selling you will definitely need all the help you can buy.

So you have gotten yourself into this crackpot business opportunity and actually find someone to buy the $1500 product, its money time right?  Wrong!  Your sponsor gets your first two commissions and you get jack.  Now your thinking, well on that website that recruited me it said that this wasn’t MLM?  Wrong!  Truth is this is MLM, in the beginning anyway.  It’s a system that highly favors the person that got you started even as you begin recruiting your own downline.  It also favors buying the products they sell, one sign of a pyramid system.

Don’t get fooled by the people with no values and integrity running the lame ass websites preying on people that are honestly putting forth and effort to make a better life for them and their family.  The amount of money this system plans to try to take from you, you could easily start the traditional brick and motor business they put down on their sites.  You should always be cautious with opportunities that make unrealistic income potential and depict lavish lifestyles on their recruitment propaganda!  I have no doubt that the some of the sponsors running the sites are making money but I think you will find the majority of the ones they have recruited have invested much and received little if nothing in return.  I get the emails everyday that tell me what goes on in a day in the life of a LLI recruit.  Please investigate any opportunity thoroughly and don’t let some smooth talking member blind you before getting the opportunity to do so.

Feel free to post any other questions you might have and I can get answers to them.  If you a Liberty League member, dont bother replying with generic and vauge answers or comments.  You guys were asked simple questions before and couldnt provide poeple with straight answers, Ofcourse I wouldnt expect it from anyone that does business in the fasion you do.

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